Jonathan Rollans

@jrollans@jrollans.com

I can’t be certain if this is my main or my alt account, but you’re here and I’m here, so, hello!

I’m a and a lover of (most of my “hobby time” is spent working on various bits of server software with a recent heavy lean towards ).


This account resides on an instance of (an ActivityPub server software) running on .

Also, I’m a lifelong, massive, fan. I love it all, I don’t hate on any Trek, it’s all good. Especially the bad.




Mastodon: ✔ https://mastodon.social/@jrollans
Vernissage: ✔ https://vernissage.photos/@jrollans

Location: 39.5501° N,105.7821° W

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Jonathan Rollans »
@jrollans@jrollans.com

Hey, folks that know more than me about the protocol, I have a question:

What kind of issues or concerns might I have if I shut down one kind of AP server software and then set up a different AP server on the domain previously occupied by the now decommissioned first AP server?

(I don’t think the soon-to-be-shutdown server has a self-destruct.)


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    BeAware »
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    @jrollans from what I understand, you will more than likely run into federation issues.😬

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      Paul Chambers🚧 »
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      @BeAware I was told that could be mitigated if you delete your accounts on your old instance first and give time for that to cycle around. And if you plan on reusing your main account, to be sure to set up a dummy account to make as your admin then delete the real account, If your software will send out account deletions. Take this with a grain of salt though. @jrollans

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        Jonathan Rollans »
        @jrollans@jrollans.com

        @paul@oldfriends.live @BeAware@social.beaware.live @BeAware Yeah, that makes sense to me I think. I don’t think the instance I’m looking at taking down to swap out for something else has federated with a ton of other instances, so hopefully it wouldn’t take much time at all.

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          Paul Chambers🚧 »
          @paul@oldfriends.live

          @jrollans With all the hype about WordPress federation, WordPress hasn't put in any defederation, self-destruct, mechanism in their plugin and doesn't seem too keen to do it, after more than a year of me going back and forth with the devs on Mastodon and GitHub. I believe this is true for even deleting accounts in WordPress that have federation mode attached. This is true as of the last time I checked.

          Essentially, I get "It's hard" and "We're working on it." Fine, at least put up some kind of independent script, guidance or something so we can deactivate and send the signal out to the Fediverse that it's done federating.

          It's really malpractice to the and

          @BeAware

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            Jonathan Rollans »
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            @paul@oldfriends.live @jrollans Wow, yeah, I had no idea! It seems like a pretty obvious necessity to have a way to stop federation and send out the message that the account is no longer active or an AP entity. Honestly to me it feels just as important as having a way to start federating in the first place.

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              Jonathan Rollans »
              @jrollans@jrollans.com

              @BeAware@social.beaware.live @jrollans I imagine so, there’s got to be a clean way to do it though, just got to find it. Thanks for the boost, I got some useful info!

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                @chkdsk@second.demae.party

                @jrollans federation is very likely to shit itself, but if you use a subdomain (eg. defunct server was example.tld, then you make a new server at subdomain.example.tld), all will be fine

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                  Jonathan Rollans »
                  @jrollans@jrollans.com

                  @chkdsk@second.demae.party @jrollans That’s pretty much what I figured, most likely I’ll do a new subdomain in one case, but I’ve got another domain I’m probably going to experiment with and see what happens. Thanks for the input!

                    Todd Sundsted »
                    @toddsundsted@epiktistes.com

                    in my case (single-user mastodon → ktistec) the only side-effect was a lot of traffic to the new application that it didn't know how to handle (ktistec doesn't support polls, for example, and i got rid of a few extra accounts). but other than the noise in the logs, posts, shares, etc. worked once i re-followed.

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                      Jonathan Rollans »
                      @jrollans@jrollans.com

                      @toddsundsted@epiktistes.com Awesome, thanks for the info! That’s probably pretty helpful because what I’m thinking of doing is a Hubzilla to Gancio (federated calendar) switch. I’m thinking Gancio probably won’t know what to do with at least a bit of the traffic that’ll be coming at it.

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